| Newhavensoft forum »Newhavensoft.net forums » Odds Wizard » Odds Wizard v2.00 has been released |
| 1. Alex - 02 November, 2007 - 20:41:59 |
| Odds Wizard v2.00 has been released today (October 3, 2007). Main new features: 1. Live results and live fair odds. 2. New version of Stake Wizard tool (based upon new theorem). 3. New computation algorithm (2007). 4. Larger form, up to 24 fixtures can be displayed. |
| 2. assi - 03 November, 2007 - 04:31:11 |
| yipppiiiiiiieh ... quite excited, will download immediateley |
| 3. Bruno - 03 November, 2007 - 08:51:08 |
| Thank you very much Alex for this release !! excellent ergonomie * Can you give us some interesting stats between 2006 Algorithm and 2007 Algorithm please ? * How to use live result ? thank you Alex and great job  (Edited by: 03 November, 2007 - 09:48:03) |
| 4. assi - 03 November, 2007 - 10:18:23 |
thx for the great work. but: i was not able to use live results und live fair odds ...  is there a short "how to .."?!"  Edit: gotcha ... ow 2.00 includes live results!! (Edited by: 03 November, 2007 - 10:38:00) |
| 5. maverick - 03 November, 2007 - 14:34:34 |
| Hi All Ok so Ive downloaded and installed the new live magic however the help file tells me whats new in version 1.8  so no help thereHave found the arrow to give me live odds and results but nothing is happening does anyone know where I can get a link to a user help guide (or even a few clues would help) On the other hand its probably me ...it usually is  Edit I am using it Champion league the 3rd october in case it makes any difference (Edited by: 03 November, 2007 - 14:36:00) |
| 6. Alex - 03 November, 2007 - 14:55:55 |
| Indeed, the first morning release of OW 2.00 has had wrong help file. Later that was corrected. Registered users will receive emails on how to activate v2.00 shortly. Although many of them have already done that. Inactive program cannot display live results/odds for the big leagues. |
| 7. amigdala - 04 November, 2007 - 01:25:11 |
| I have downloaded Odds Wizard v2.00 "Live magic". But I couldn't find any topic about new version in the help file. I think, it is belong to odds wizard 1,95 diamond magic. Alex said later was correct. But I dont think alex. I downloaded two times new release and setup correctly. But it shows still incorrect help file. I want to be informed how I can use live odds and stake wizard 4. And I have not any email how can I upgrade from odds wizard to live magic. Alex I send you an email about changing my email adress. But you have not sent me any email about this important situation. Thanks. (Edited by: 04 November, 2007 - 01:25:57) |
| 8. Alex - 04 November, 2007 - 13:18:20 |
| That was probably due to that cache data wasn't updated right away. Please download OW200.exe again. It has been tested very well. |
| 9. maverick - 04 November, 2007 - 13:51:48 |
| Hi I downloaded Live 2.00 and installed it to a different drive to the 1.96 version being reluctant to let the other version go until I was happy 2.00 worked OK Initially I couldnt get it to work so somewhat nervously I uninstalled 1.96 and 2.00 works much better. The help file still refers to whats new in 1.80 in the list of subjects but the rest of the help file is ok including the live odds section which Im currently trying to get my head round Hope that helps someone The only thing left now is to actually activate the live odds function I understand that I have to register for it but there seems little info on where ....any help would be appreciated (Edited by: 04 November, 2007 - 15:12:16) |
| 10. Alex - 04 November, 2007 - 15:33:35 |
| You don't have to register for live odds as you are already registered user of version 1.95 and earlier. You just have to activate the program properly. Even not registered (or not activated) copy of OW can display live results and live odds in several leagues. Live results/odds can be initiated by the button >> on a toolbar. Anyway, I recommend you to download the latest package OW200.exe with several minor corrections. |
| 11. Mag - 04 November, 2007 - 19:16:17 |
| Hi, I have downloaded again v2.00 and can't make it works for live games (it only appears the message (To start) when a game is live) , the button of live games doesn't work at all, In the help file I can't see what is new in version 2.00, it only has what is new in 1.95 version, Thank's for the update, Best Regards (Edited by: 04 November, 2007 - 19:17:14) |
| 12. TheBluesBrother - 05 November, 2007 - 10:56:27 |
| I have downloaded version 2.0 again and reinstalled and the what's new file is showing version 1.95? |
| 13. ministar - 05 November, 2007 - 10:57:17 |
| Dear Alex,How to active oddwizard v2.0? Thankx |
| 14. Alex - 05 November, 2007 - 15:34:03 |
| I strongly recommend to download the latest package once again as several corrections have been made. Activation is very simple: just choose menu item "Internet -> Full update of all leagues and fixtures". |
| 15. Mag - 06 November, 2007 - 00:06:47 |
| Thank's Alex for support, I downloaded the latest version 2.0, Now I can see live games results, help file ok, very nice features, Just an observation, when you put the mouse in Stake wizard icon (SW) in the main window of OW it says Stake Wizard 3 instead of Stake Wizard 4, Regards |
| 16. Alex - 06 November, 2007 - 01:08:52 |
| Many thanks for appreciation! |
| 17. maverick - 06 November, 2007 - 07:02:30 |
| Hi All Nope still cant get live odds I am working behind a wireless netgear router with built in firewall Could this be affecting it although it updates tables etc ok Thinking about opening up one of the ports but dont know which one it is downloaded a fresh copy 12:00 06/10/07 uninstalled previous installed new copy updated leagues etc tried live odds on Manchester United game Still no joy Any help really appreciated whilst I still have hair left |
| 18. Theuth - 06 November, 2007 - 08:01:38 |
| It's not just you maverick. Doesn't work for me either. Just re-installed after uninstalling previous installition.  |
| 19. munki - 06 November, 2007 - 10:26:11 |
| Same problem for me as well |
| 20. maverick - 06 November, 2007 - 11:08:23 |
| Thanks for the info lads was being to think I was the only one out of curiosity what internet connections do you have mine is a wireless netgear router on a broadband (permanently on) connection just tried live odds periodically all afternoon but no joy think I'll go back to the alcohol |
| 21. Theuth - 06 November, 2007 - 11:27:16 |
| Wireless BT HomeHub router on a broadband connection. I've uninstalled and reinstalled 4 times now. Even did a clean sweep of OW using CCleaner and still not working. Only thing I can think of is maybe it hasn't registered me properly on the Newhavensoft server and is now blocking my requests for live scores. Certainly is frustrating though.  Was looking forward to trialling it with the weekend soccer. |
| 22. munki - 06 November, 2007 - 12:51:29 |
| I am running a wireless setup with a US Robotics router. Like youself I have uninstalled and reinstalled a number of times without success.I would have thought that if it was a firewall problem loads of people would have been suffering similar problems .Hope there is a solution soon |
| 23. Alex - 06 November, 2007 - 15:52:31 |
| Hi Theuth, Hi Munki, The problem could originate from the LAN proxy settings (broadband Internet connections are usually configured as LAN). Please try the latest package of v2.00 on www.newhavensoft.net with better automatic LAN configuration. |
| 24. maverick - 06 November, 2007 - 16:22:23 |
| Hi Alex and all Have downloaded and reinstalled again The sw icon has changed from sw3 to sw4 so I know its a new version but still no live scores The update leagues is working so obviously it can connect to the net What port does it work off as I know how to open them on my router and at least it might eliminate one possibility Failing that I have a cloned back up drive I might try installing it on that see if it makes any difference Thanks for your perseverence Will let you know if I have any luck (Added) Ok so the cloned drive wont work either Had the idea that installing 1.96 then installing 2.00 might have messed things up. The cloned drive only had 1.95 on it and so was effectively clean Having unplugged the wireless thingy (dongle) I clicked the live odds button and recieved a you are not connected to the internet advice so obviously the button is active Rapidly coming to the conclusion that it must be the router (mine has an independent firewall) Lan settings or maybe I should have bought that lucky heather after all In the last couple of posts I notice all three of us are wireless coincidence? I know the info doesnt help much Im just hoping it narrows the field down Ironically I had the best days betting results for ages (Edited by: 06 November, 2007 - 16:23:01) |
| 25. Theuth - 06 November, 2007 - 17:24:15 | |
| Hi Alex, Just reinstalled again and no joy. Tried to get live odds and score for the Spanish La Liga game, which at the time of installing still had 15 mins to go. I press the new 'Live Odds' button and nothing happens. It will update the leagues with no problem and everything else seems to work fine (love the bigger screen BTW ). Turned my firewall off as well (but not my anti-virus) and still didn't work.Quote:
Did this as well and got the same result as Maverick. I tend to think it's server side rather than client side though. (Edited by: 06 November, 2007 - 17:33:19) |
| 26. munki - 07 November, 2007 - 04:12:24 | ||
| Quote: Quote:
I've tried this and unfortunately still no success Alex. |
| 27. xej - 07 November, 2007 - 06:34:51 |
| I have last version installed and the same problem. But it's not related to wireless lan as i'm using the program in a lan without wifi. Also if i use the program through wifi, i cannot access to live data. Two antivirus/firewall installed: Kaspery and Trendmicro (in different computers).  |
| 28. Alex - 07 November, 2007 - 16:15:12 |
| Well, HTTP requests from OW now can follow redirections. Maybe this could help. Theuth, could you please send me what you have managed to catch up (the raw html stream)? |
| 29. Theuth - 08 November, 2007 - 05:50:30 | |
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Sure, no problem. There's no live game at the moment. As soon as one starts I'll get a text file of the stream and email it to you. Have you uploaded a updated version recently? It's a difficult to tell. A timestamp from the latest update on the download page of the website or a change to the minor version number would help. I keep uninstalling and reinstalling every day, just in case you've done an update. (Edited by: 08 November, 2007 - 05:51:21) |
| 30. Alex - 08 November, 2007 - 06:04:52 |
| The latest upload has been made today. The timestamp of Oddswiz.exe has no change, but the build number 2.0.0.42 is visible in file properties -> file version. |
| 31. Theuth - 08 November, 2007 - 06:19:50 |
| Okay, thanks. Check your email. Found a file from yesterday. While I was poking about with the file, I noticed that red cards are recorded in the text. A red card can make a big difference to a game and thus, the odds. Does the new live update take red cards into account when calculating odds? |
| 32. Alex - 08 November, 2007 - 10:51:05 |
| Red cards are not taken into account as for now. They will be counted in the next release of v2.00. The problem with live results/odds apparently has been resolved. The reason was in UK date format. Many thanks to Theuth for his kind assistance. Please download & reinstall Odds Wizard build # 2.0.0.48. |
| 33. Theuth - 08 November, 2007 - 11:18:13 |
That's fantastic Alex. I now have a STOP button where the new arrow was before and everything seems to be working great.   Thanks for the quick update. |
| 34. munki - 08 November, 2007 - 12:33:13 |
| Sorted here as well ......thanks a lot Alex |
| 35. xej - 08 November, 2007 - 13:01:43 |
| problem solved in both computers. Working great ! |
| 36. anato - 11 November, 2007 - 14:43:36 |
| I think 2007 algorithm must be checked, because it has lack of true predictions scores. This is big handicap for 2007 algortihm when we compare 2006 to 2007 algorithm. Because odds wizard produces odds when we check 2007 algorithm, it shows score nearly all of the matches 1-1. This should not be true prediction. Secondly I wonder chart menu>ratings> teams vs teams. I think odds wizard shows rating of a team both home and away rating total. I suggest to authors of the odds wizard, Chart menu should show team vs team rating divided into home and away rating. Such as when we choose A team and B team, team vs team graphs must shows (if A team will play at home) A team rating at home and B team away rating. Most bookies use home and away performances of the team to compute odds. This information very usefull to compute odds. For example A team will play at home and has high rating at home, because this team is strong at home but when it will play away this team has low rating because it is weaker than home. I think odds wizard rating system lack of this critical information. Thanks for your attention and participitation. |
| 37. Alex - 11 November, 2007 - 16:19:00 | |
| Algorithm issues are being discussed in the topic Algorithm-2007: http://www.newhavensoft.net/forum/topic.php?forum=1&topic=156 Quote:
We have already tried separation onto home and away ratings. But the advantage appeared to be doubtful, and the ratings were unstable. Sometimes the 'separated' model said: away rating is greater than home rating. Anyway we are constantly working on improving performance, and have tried a number of various methods, including the suggested one. However the above post is regarded as an incentive to keep searching better models. Thanks! |
| 38. riccja - 14 November, 2007 - 10:34:01 |
| Alex, If you have say 50 games to predict and when you hit update fixtures it shows the first 24. Is there a way then to automatically show the next 24 without having to do a manual entry for each matchup? thanks Rick |
| 39. Alex - 14 November, 2007 - 15:12:57 |
| All sports supported by Odds Wizard as so far require at most 24 fixtures. That's why there is no regular way to display more fixtures at a time. Possible (though not simple) method to display odds for the next 24 fixtures is as follows: 1. Display all fixtures of interest in the games table. Adjust the setting 'Show new fixtures, rounds' if necessary. 2. Assign the next 24 fixtures some future date (e.g. +1 day from the first 24 fixtures) in the games table. 3. Save the file. 4. Update games from the same file so that 'fixed' fixtures were updated. 5. Change system date to the date of the next 24 fixtures. 6. Close and open the program. Display odds of your interest. 7. Change system date back to the original value. |
| 40. riccja - 14 November, 2007 - 21:01:31 |
| Alex, I did everything except adjust the setting " show new fixtures, rounds" I couldnt find that setting Nothing changed. Rick |
| 41. Alex - 15 November, 2007 - 13:10:23 |
| This setting can be found in the Options panel. |
| 42. riccja - 22 November, 2007 - 12:45:13 |
| djust the setting 'Show new fixtures, rounds' if necessary What do you adjust these settings to? Rick (Added) Alex I tried this method with various settings and it just dosnt work...at least for me... the show new fixtures is not highlighted so you dont have that option when i change the system date Rick |
| 43. Alex - 22 November, 2007 - 17:39:43 | |
| 'Show new fixtures, rounds' - the number of rounds of future games to be used as fixtures. Quote:
This means that there is no new fixtures available, at least with the date >= today. Available fixtures can be always seen via Games -> View games -> All fixtures. |